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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2009, 11:36:44 AM » |
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I think letting Collins go and moving Brennan to #2 gives us more options at other positions, and as we are in deep you know what concerning the salary Cap we need to make do as best we can with moving players out and trimming as much as we can off the Cap so we can maneuver.
Thank you for the clarification. But, I go back to what I said a post or two ago. Letting Collins go means we have no experienced back-up at the most important position on the field and in today's NFL, you need an experienced back-up quarterback. Yes, it would save money, but it also would kill our season should JC get hurt and the only other option is Colt. Right now, I'd take Collins' experience over Colt anyday. Id sacrifice Colts inexperiance for the money it would save, the options it would offer and the experiance Colt would earn from being #2 If we were going to be in the hunt to be Division winners then it would be different but considering whats at stake, not a great deal, then i dont see it as much a gamble. We finnish 4th in our Div either with Colt at #3 or #2 If it means cutting Collins and moving Colt to #2 to balance the books for next season and benefit the team for seasons to come Id do it in a heart beat. Bzapf what you on??? I dont know where you get the "Colt gets lucky in a couple of preseason games and we just forget about Todd? seems silly to me." from?  whos saying that? is it just your view that people are saying this? I cant find this view from anyone other than you??? Its about building for the future and for better or worse the Franchise has chosen Jason Campbell as our Starting QB thats how it is. Colt is one for the future, not now, We have to build for the future and Colt was took for his potential. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2009, 01:59:42 PM » |
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Collins played well in the Al Saunders system because he had been in it for 10 years. If he was such a good QB then why has he spent all these years on the bench? Look I respect what he did for us coming off the bench in 2007. But his time has passed by. He is almost 40 years old.
I am 100 % for Jason being the #1. But I see nothing wrong with Colt moving up to the #2. That's why we drafted him. Both Flacco and Ryan lead their teams to the playoffs last year as rookies. Whose to say that Colt is not ready to step up.
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2009, 05:00:31 PM » |
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I am 100 % for Jason being the #1. But I see nothing wrong with Colt moving up to the #2. That's why we drafted him. Both Flacco and Ryan lead their teams to the playoffs last year as rookies. Whose to say that Colt is not ready to step up.
Flacco and Ryan belong to franchises known for making wise personnel decisions. Those two quarterbacks are surrounded by a LOT of talent on both sides of the ball that perform when the money's on the line. The Redskins just aren't there yet. You put Colt in, and what happened to Patrick Ramsey, when Steve Spurrier's offense didn't focus on protecting the quarterback, will happen to him. He'l become jittery and won't get any type of rhythm and confidence going for himself. Everyone around here is anointing him as the savior when he hasn't won anything of meaning yet. |
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2009, 05:24:38 PM » |
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I hardly think that by encouraging Brennan enough to become #2 is anointing him. All I ever expected of him was to be a career back up. His style of play needs a lot work, too much to be anything other than a backup. Having a solid career #2 is not what I would consider a problem. Once again Jason is the starter as he should be.
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2009, 07:29:41 PM » |
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I hardly think that by encouraging Brennan enough to become #2 is anointing him. All I ever expected of him was to be a career back up. His style of play needs a lot work, too much to be anything other than a backup. Having a solid career #2 is not what I would consider a problem. Once again Jason is the starter as he should be.
But, my point is that he hasn't done anything to warrant being moved to #2. I can't see how you can comfortably go into the season with someone with no playing time to be one blind-side hit to Jason Campbell away from being the starter. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2009, 07:49:15 PM » |
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I did orginally say that if he has a strong training camp and preseason. As long as earns it he should get it. A gamble yes it is but it is not looking as if it is going to matter. The team has more concerns that looking for aged backup QB.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2009, 08:03:06 PM » |
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I am 100 % for Jason being the #1. But I see nothing wrong with Colt moving up to the #2. That's why we drafted him. Both Flacco and Ryan lead their teams to the playoffs last year as rookies. Whose to say that Colt is not ready to step up.
Flacco and Ryan belong to franchises known for making wise personnel decisions. Those two quarterbacks are surrounded by a LOT of talent on both sides of the ball that perform when the money's on the line. The Redskins just aren't there yet. You put Colt in, and what happened to Patrick Ramsey, when Steve Spurrier's offense didn't focus on protecting the quarterback, will happen to him. He'l become jittery and won't get any type of rhythm and confidence going for himself. Everyone around here is anointing him as the savior when he hasn't won anything of meaning yet. I am in agreement with NC about Flacco and Ryan. Maybe Colt could be like them. However, Stwasm has made good points about Colt's lack of experience and our system/personnel management being different/ better than ours. I also agree with Yellow's point about having greater needs than backup QB. Bottom line, develop Colt in camp and for the future, and make him #2. Also, the more I think about it, maybe Collins or Garcia would make a good #3 and add some QB insurance. Thoughts? (I know I made a completely different comment in another thread about Garcia, but I'm a little more open since we're chatting about Colt) |
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2009, 09:32:27 PM » |
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How can you compare Colt with Flacco and Ryan they were drafted as being franchise QB's and Colt was lucky to be even drafted. He put up good numbers in college but he was drafted in the idea of being a diamond in the rough and that being a player that would have to be developed. Do not think that I do not like Colt but if JC goes down and Colt is the only option we have we are not winning alot of games. By cutting Collins and saving money would be a bad business decision and not good for the future, just like Patrick Ramsey when he was getting killed when Steve Spurrier was here. Just like the idea of having a veteren QB that will make good decisions and not lose you a football game by making rookie mistakes.
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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2009, 08:57:43 AM » |
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Colt was lucky to be even drafted. I would not go that far and say that he was lucky to be drafted. He put up some great numbers in collage. It's true he was playing some weaker teams. But remember that not all NFL QB's played at big time schools. CP thinks he should get a shot and that means something. Zorn was a QB, he should know better than any of us if Colt is ready to be the #2. |
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2009, 10:37:01 AM » |
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You all make some good points. I would just like to see Colt get a chance and if he does will in camp he deserves one.
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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2009, 10:43:36 AM » |
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You all make some good points. I would just like to see Colt get a chance and if he does will in camp he deserves one.
In my opinion the best case scenario would be to have a wide open qb competition next year. But sadly that will never happen. |
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2009, 11:08:33 AM » |
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You all make some good points. I would just like to see Colt get a chance and if he does will in camp he deserves one.
In my opinion the best case scenario would be to have a wide open qb competition next year. But sadly that will never happen. I would love to see an open competition for QB this year. Best man for the job!  |
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2009, 11:18:22 AM » |
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Jason Campbell is our #1 QB and thats the way it is at the moment, I hope he is the #1 next year too! That way he would have done a good job for us this coming season.
We need consistancy at starting QB JC has a years experiance with a new offense under Zorn and has another Training Camp to come and progress more into "Zorns Way"
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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2009, 09:07:34 PM » |
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Colt was lucky to be even drafted. I would not go that far and say that he was lucky to be drafted. He put up some great numbers in collage. It's true he was playing some weaker teams. But remember that not all NFL QB's played at big time schools. CP thinks he should get a shot and that means something. Zorn was a QB, he should know better than any of us if Colt is ready to be the #2. Is that you Colt. 186 out of 252 that is pretty lucky, we drafted a punter before you Colt. |
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2009, 11:53:21 PM » |
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Colt was lucky to be even drafted. I would not go that far and say that he was lucky to be drafted. He put up some great numbers in collage. It's true he was playing some weaker teams. But remember that not all NFL QB's played at big time schools. CP thinks he should get a shot and that means something. Zorn was a QB, he should know better than any of us if Colt is ready to be the #2. Is that you Colt. 186 out of 252 that is pretty lucky, we drafted a punter before you Colt. Yeah and that punter quickly turned into an injury-plagued, under-achieving bust. I made a mistake earlier when I talk about our FO/System. It is different and obviously not as sound as other teams with young QBs (Baltimore, Atlanta, etc), but we should at least keep and develop Colt for the future. Keep in mind, NO ONE thought Flacco and the Ravens would make it NEARLY as far as they did, given they have a great D and a 3-headed running game. Also, Ryan and Atlanta had Michael Turner. However, if these guys can have breakout rookie years, who knows what Colt can do. |
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