It's time to move Brennan to the #2

[War Wagon]

Even though Collins played well in 07 I think it's time to move Colt Brennan to the #2. If Jason goes down I want to see Brennan in there. It's time to see what he can do. Collins time is over. After this season he will be gone.

What do you all think?

[NCSKINSFAN]

I agree Colt should be the back up behind Jason. That being said if he out preforms Jason in camp then he should move up to #1. But I hope that Jason has a great camp and preseason. Then goes on to lead us to the playoffs.

[Yellow31]

I think that this will happen as long as he has another strong TC and preseason.

[AlexandertheGreatestFANEV]

As I said in another thread, Colt should be number 2. He's a smart QB with a great arm and has shown he can lead an offense down the field. I hope the coaches work with him in regards to learning a balanced offense, but we'll see. It'll be interesting to see what we do with him.

[UK_Skinfan]

I hear Colt's action has changed from when he 1st came to the Skins (less round arm) proof that hes been coached well and more to the point, taking onboard what the Coaches are saying. 

[stwasm]

Sure, Colt Brennan can move the ball downfield against third- and fourth-stringers, and guys with no hope of making a pro football team.  The question is how would he do against a defense like Baltimore's?  It's way too soon to anoint Colt the second coming of Sammy Baugh, and a lot of people want to do that.  Let's remember that he was inactive for most of 2008 and that happened for a reason.  He's still a very raw product and needs more time holding that clipboard, watching and learning.  If we threw him out there now, the result would be similar to what happened when Kevin Kolb replaced Donavan McNabb in Baltimore.  I'd be more comfortable with a seasoned back-up (Jeff Garcia, anyone?) behind JC than someone who, while they may have set lots of passing records in college, hasn't faced the defenses of today's NFL. 

[UK_Skinfan]

Moving Colt from #3 QB to #2 doesnt mean he starts, Moving Colt to #2 means he can continue with his "education"  progress from the experiance and we can cut Todd Collins, this saving us  $1,900,000 against the Cap.

Sounds like a good Football decision and a good Business decision too.

[stwasm]

Moving Colt from #3 QB to #2 doesnt mean he starts, Moving Colt to #2 means he can continue with his "education"  progress from the experiance and we can cut Todd Collins, this saving us  $1,900,000 against the Cap.

Sounds like a good Football decision and a good Business decision too.

So, if something happens to Jason Campbell, you're ready to put the ball in the hands of a second-year pro who's never faced a first-strong offense?  That's a lousy football decision.  Nowadays, you need more than one experienced quarterback and cutting Todd Collins, while it may be a money-saver, would leave us without experience at the most important position on the field.  He may not be the best quarterback in the world, but he's seen a LOT more than Colt has even dreamed of and could respond accordingly when the bullets are flying during a real game.

[UK_Skinfan]

Sink or swim, put him in...... Theres plenty of Rookie QB's who havent played against a 1st team offense.  A couple that didnt do that bad last year    Colt has to learn and we have to make hard decisions about our Rosta and Salary Cap

We are limited to what we can do this off season, decisions arent going to be easy and not everyone is going to be happy with them.

[stwasm]

Sink or swim, put him in...... Theres plenty of Rookie QB's who havent played against a 1st team offense.  A couple that didnt do that bad last year    Colt has to learn and we have to make hard decisions about our Rosta and Salary Cap

We are limited to what we can do this off season, decisions arent going to be easy and not everyone is going to be happy with them.

I think the majority of people who are ready to put Colt in are saying so because they want to see Jason out.  I think he's done the best he can given the fact he's had to learn numerous offenses and has a sub-standard, aging offensive line with only two real options to throw to.  Has he made mistakes?  Yes, he has.  But, to say the offense has done nothing because of him and him alone is ludicrous.  Everyone was canonizing him when the Redskins got off to that hot start.  Now, you want to throw him under the bus.  Those rookie quarterbacks you mentioned also had decent offensive lines and numerous options at receiver.  Changing the quarterback is not going to turn this team into an instant winner.  In fact, doing so means it will take steps backwards.  Give Jason a better line and more options at receiver and you'll see a difference.

[redskin_ty]

Sure, Colt Brennan can move the ball downfield against third- and fourth-stringers, and guys with no hope of making a pro football team.  The question is how would he do against a defense like Baltimore's?  It's way too soon to anoint Colt the second coming of Sammy Baugh, and a lot of people want to do that.  Let's remember that he was inactive for most of 2008 and that happened for a reason.  He's still a very raw product and needs more time holding that clipboard, watching and learning.  If we threw him out there now, the result would be similar to what happened when Kevin Kolb replaced Donavan McNabb in Baltimore.  I'd be more comfortable with a seasoned back-up (Jeff Garcia, anyone?) behind JC than someone who, while they may have set lots of passing records in college, hasn't faced the defenses of today's NFL. 

Could have not said it any better a couple of good preseason games and this is what always happens.  Colt is still far from even getting any talk of him being the starter.  That is why I said it would not be a bad idea to get Garcia as a backup QB. Swatsm I had started a thread with this as Garcia being a good backup

[UK_Skinfan]

Who said put Colt in as a Starting QB?? I didnt. 

Who said Campbell is not good enough?  I didnt.

Colt at #2 doesnt mean we are going to rely on him  as a starting QB.

Garcia coming here as backup,  Then what? what happens to Collins? what happens to Brennan? 

I think letting Collins go and moving Brennan to #2 gives us more options at other positions, and as we are in deep you know what concerning the salary Cap we need to make do as best we can with moving players out and trimming as much as we can off the Cap so we can maneuver. 

Theres too many holes to fill and not enough options available to fill them.  We are in a fix, yeh wake up deal with it and lets move on,  we need to gamble on Youth and inexperiance ( its cheaper that way)  to get us into a position that we have strenghthend our team without breaking the bank or trading next years Draft picks away to get there.

In an Ideal world Colt wouldnt be rushed into the #2 spot but its not an Ideal world at the moment for us, so needs must.

We all want the Redskins to be a Dominent and successful Team/Franchise, wouldnt life be that much sweeter then,  but we arent going to be anywhere near a dominent team next year whatever we do this off season concerning the bringing in of players but we can lay the foundations for the future, now.  Whatever we do now will effect our future and to be a successful team in the future we need to be forward thinking.

Having Colt at #3 or #2 wont make that much a difference to where we finnish next season ( I dont think we will make the playoffs either way) but it will make a difference to our Cap (if we move Collins out) Theres a difference between wanting something ( I want us to reach the playoffs) and expecting something (I expect us to not reach the playoffs)  Im just being realistic, look at us and our situation and then look at our divisional opponents and can you honnestly expect us finnishing above any of them?

If the right decissions are made now then I WILL expect the Redskins to be competing for a playoff berth in the near future and building on that to become a Dominant force for seasons to come. 

We can knock the decissions of the past but we need to have faith that lessons have been learnt and the decissions from now on will be for the good of the Franchise not just for now but for years to come. 

[Yellow31]

To back up UK if I may.  This thread started as bumping Colt up to #2 not as the starter that job belongs to Jason and is his to keep or lose, hopefully keep.  I don't see were anybody suggested that he be the starter. If members wish to debate Colt as the starter then I suggest beginning another thread. My Two Cents.

[stwasm]

I think letting Collins go and moving Brennan to #2 gives us more options at other positions, and as we are in deep you know what concerning the salary Cap we need to make do as best we can with moving players out and trimming as much as we can off the Cap so we can maneuver. 

Thank you for the clarification.  But, I go back to what I said a post or two ago.  Letting Collins go means we have no experienced back-up at the most important position on the field and in today's NFL, you need an experienced back-up quarterback.  Yes, it would save money, but it also would kill our season should JC get hurt and the only other option is Colt.  Right now, I'd take Collins' experience over Colt anyday. 

[Bzapf]

Todd Collins is the man. In a fair situation he would have been given a chance to start this year. The 07 run was the best Redskins team I have ever seen(I'm 20) and it was all on TC. Colt gets lucky in a couple of preseason games and we just forget about Todd? seems silly to me.