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« on: December 23, 2008, 01:31:41 AM » |
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With the offseason steadily approaching, seeing both of our approaches (aggressive and non-aggresive), and now knowing our needs, I think that it is good time to ask...how do you think that we should approach this season free agent talent pool? Thanks to 70chiponwhite we have these players to look at before making our decisions... http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/fa/wr.htmlIMO...we should aggressively pursue Tennessee's DTAlbert Haynesworth and/or Carolina's OT Jordan Gross with the thoughts of if either or neither is not landed that we can go into the draft and get a possible starter at either positions. Both of these players are young and proven so I do not think that we would lose with neither. As far as the money goes, I think that we have more knowlegable members than myself in that aspect who would know if we can afford one or both and whether or not it would be feasible. I also think that pursuing, although not so aggressively, a Lion's Shaun McDonald would not be a bad move because he has the experience and HAS produced in the past but his numbers has dropped SIMPLY because Detroit have been so receiver happy in recent years rendering him expendable. We are going to need a receiver and I do not think that he will have a lot of bargaining power. I think that we disregarded the free agent pool last season because our FO thinking was that the pool was shallow for our particular needs and although we have made some aweful decisions in the past , we should not totally disregard the pool of players. Opinions?... |
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HOGWILD21
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2008, 03:23:46 PM » |
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Let's be aggressisve.Is that what we did in the glory days by going after free agents.I know Snyder can afford it.I would love to see us get a pass rusher or a run stopper.If Jason Taylor plays like he did Sunday and go after a big man to stuff the middle we will have a top defense.I am not even going to put down something about an O-Line because we have all agreed we need to get younger in that area.I would like to go after a WR and a Kicker,yes I said another kicker.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2008, 03:43:25 PM » |
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Yeah I think that Swishy is a goner...I don't know who is going to be out there as far as free agency goes but if we can get one there, I would be down for it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2008, 08:41:05 PM » |
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I would really want to get younger on both sides of the ball but especially on the O line. I would not go crazy on the oline but one guy that I would really want to go after would be Vernon Carey from Miami. He would be a good right tackle and probaly we are going to need a left guard I was thinking maybe Reinhart would fill that position. On the defense side we really need a above average tackle. Haynesworth would be great but if we sign him he is going to cost a lot and probaly not live up to it. So if we do not get in the Haynesworth lottery I would try to sign Shaun Cody of Detroit and play like we have been playing by commitee.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2008, 04:04:06 PM » |
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T-Y, I am not feeling our DT's even if played by committee, neither is getting the proper push that we need up the middle to make our pass pressure work. If we lose the Haynesworth sweepstake, I think that we should go hard after a blue chip DT by way of the draft even if we have to move up to get him.
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2008, 02:25:14 PM » |
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Hey, guys...I personally think we should focus on the draft, but with only 3 picks right now (according to members who were at the tailgate Sunday) that may not be the sole option. After looking at the FA link, I could see us trying to get Houshmanzadeh for a tall WR. We also might want to look at Gross, Goff, Thomas, Tauscher, and Barnes for the o-line. I'm not sure if we can find much for the d-line, but I'd be content with going after an LB like Suggs. Finally, I don't know what we can do about kickers, but we could use one from the draft and I agree that Suisham will be gone.
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2008, 02:43:17 PM » |
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I think that we have 4 picks Alex....1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th but regardless, I think that depending totally on the draft is not the answer nor is going totally the FA route. IMO, both should be looked at with a open mind cnsidering the players in the pool (both FA's and draft's) and your specific needs.
With that said, I do not think that we should go after a high profile receiver like Houshmanzadeh. We have Kelly as a tall receiver, we just need to use him correctly.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 04:53:58 PM » |
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I would say aggressisve but we need to be smart about it. We have a good secondary and LB's but Our D line needs improvement. I would like to see a Blue Collar guy that works hard and gets it done Not the Big name Big money signing. I think we need to keep our Draft picks Not trading them off for nothing in return. Oline is another place I'd like to see Improvements. We could use some Big help and I'm really not sure were to start. maybe Center left or right takles I'm not sure we just need some help.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2009, 10:16:04 PM » |
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As Alex stated, we have only 4 picks this year and 2, maybe 3 will probably not be for impact players so if anyone would be interested in our 3rd, 5th or 6th for anyone who may impact our team this season, I do not see where we would hurt too badly.
What's done is done, we do not have the picks... with only a 1st (13th pick), 3rd, 5th and 6th pick, this draft is not going to effect our team much next season and probably not for season's to come. Chris Horton's do not come a dime a dozen.
We had a plethera of picks last season and I think that we came out of the draft with some players in Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Tryon (yes Tryon, he'll be OK), Jackson, Rinehart and Horton who will, eventually help us BUT the free agent pool was weak.... BUT this year we have only 4 picks!
Each year has to be approached differently...players are available for our particular needs in the FA pool and I really think that we should go after a couple of them IF it doesn't mean messing with any of our next year's draft choices.
We are NOT going to be able to build a formidable team with only 5th and 6th round picks available.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 03:57:03 PM » |
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I would say aggressisve but we need to be smart about it. We have a good secondary and LB's but Our D line needs improvement. I would like to see a Blue Collar guy that works hard and gets it done Not the Big name Big money signing. I think we need to keep our Draft picks Not trading them off for nothing in return. Oline is another place I'd like to see Improvements. We could use some Big help and I'm really not sure were to start. maybe Center left or right takles I'm not sure we just need some help.
I'm not so sure I agree with that. Marcus Washington has had two injury-filled seasons and I can't see them bringing him back because of that. Rocky McIntosh has knee problems that date back to his college days and plagued him this season, but were ignored by the FO when they gave up picks to draft him. As much as I love Shawn Springs' game, he has proven to be too injury prone. I think Fred Smoot has seen better days and Justin Tryon shouldn't have even made the team. In fact, he probably shouldn't have even been drafted. Offensively, we say goodbye to Kendall and his 36-year-old, arthritic knees and see what Chad Rinehardt has. |
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2009, 11:57:45 AM » |
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I really believe this and hope that our FO will make a very hard attempt at getting Jordan Gross http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/notes-from-lombardi-4/FIVE THINGS I HEAR…
1. I hear the ‘Skins might open the big wallets to try and acquire Carolina offensive tackle Jordan Gross when he becomes a free agent in March. They will have a ton of competition. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2009, 07:01:49 PM » |
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Well I voted for Pursue lower level players and rely on the draft.
I feel that we need to be a bit more prudent with the spending and do our best in the Draft....
Splashing the money and giving away our picks on so called big time players that fail to deliver the goods has got us where we are now, strugling with lack of picks and struggling with not much room under the Salary Cap.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 12:11:08 PM » |
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Truth is Zorn's got one year to get it right or he is as good as gone. It really doesnt matter what approach we take as long as we adress the lines.
Yes to Gross
No to Haynesworth
A proven deep threat WR would be a good idea. But if they didn't relize this last year I don't see why they would now. Kelly should have been put on IR after 3 weeks and they still didn't adress it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2009, 05:31:22 PM » |
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A WR??  I just think our existing WR core will step upto the plate this next coming season. Id rather stick with what weve got at WR at the moment and strengthen both O & D lines Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly will have a full year under their belts learning the system and timing etc and they will have to, baring injuries, show their worth, with their help Santana Moss will imo have a far better season and Antwaan Randle El can do his stuff without having to be relied on, on too many downs. A WR would be nice but only if we see to our O & D lines 1st...... |
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2009, 06:39:10 PM » |
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I have to agree with Zap, we have to replace Thrash... I would not go on a spending spree for a receiver but I do think that we can use one if we can get a more reliable one pretty cheap.
I think that Kelly and Thomas will need another year to really start making some noise, one may have a coming out year but I do not expect both to come out at the same time.
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