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BMahoney
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« on: December 16, 2008, 07:13:14 PM » |
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Who doesn't wish Campbell had taken a few more chances this year. All year long it was dink and dunk and dink and dunk.. yes I understand this is the philosophy of a West Coast offense, but that is when short passes are essentially the run game which is not true in our case. Fact of the matter is, all season long Jason was unwilling to take chances, and yes its nice to have a quarterback with few interceptions, but its also nice to have a qb who actually throws touchdown passes. Until Jason begins taking a few chances and threatening d-backs with his arm, I believe we will continue to see our offense sputter. Not to mention, majority of teams are well aware that if you blitz Campbell on a passing down he will either, curl up 2 seconds early and take the sack or scramble out of the pocket and get sacked (instead of throwing the ball away). Its a win win for the opposing defense, and it really shouldn't be, Santana Moss is entirely too fast of a wide receiver to be played in man coverage, why we don't exploit defenses with him when they blitz is beyond me. I think maybe one time this season we saw the blitz and Moss on one and one and Campbell threw him the deep ball it didn't succeed but it was only once.
-No this doesn't mean I think Colt Brennan should be our starting qb, it doesn't mean I think Campbell should lose his position, or Zorn for that matter, but it just really puzzles me that as much talent as the Redskins have, they still can't generate a vertical passing game.
-What do I think needs to happen? Nothing, all the players need to stay Campbell included, all coaches need to stay Zorn included. During free agency we need to remain relatively quiet unless we can work out a remarkable deal for a lineman i.e. Haynesworth, and we should also resign Hall. Then draft a few big boys, another year in the same offense, and plays will start clicking for this group, IT WILL JUST TAKE TIME.
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2008, 09:02:10 AM » |
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Not to mention, majority of teams are well aware that if you blitz Campbell on a passing down he will either, curl up 2 seconds early and take the sack or scramble out of the pocket and get sacked (instead of throwing the ball away). Its a win win for the opposing defense, and it really shouldn't be, Santana Moss is entirely too fast of a wide receiver to be played in man coverage, why we don't exploit defenses with him when they blitz is beyond me. I think maybe one time this season we saw the blitz and Moss on one and one and Campbell threw him the deep ball it didn't succeed but it was only once.
I agree totally. I have thought the same thing all year. I drives me crazy to see the way Campbell handles pressure. I know that his last name is not Manning, but he has do better.
I am not ready to quit on him yet, but if next season there is not some improvement, I don't see the Redskins resigning him. I hope that this is not the case because I want him to be our QB for a long time.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2008, 03:12:34 PM » |
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I just wish that we had the JC from his Auburn days.Man he scrambled when he was in trouble,had a golden arm,I know he still does but he don't use it. When we drafted him I was expecting the JC from college.I was wrong and I would like to see us give someone else a chance if JC can't play like his college days.I know he could be a dangerous QB.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2008, 10:22:43 AM » |
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Here is the thing guys....how long do we have to wait? he will be going into his 5th year of development, is he that special that Colt or any other QB could not have done what he has up to this point? I mean look at the other rookie qb's around like in Atlanta and Bmore...JC/coaches/everyone else always uses the excuse that it is a new system and he needs time to develope, but gosh darn it no one else in the league complains this much about it! I mean it's the NFL coaches/systems change all the time with teams, I'm just tired of it...either you have it or you don't! I for one would like to see Colt play atleast the second half or the last quarter of the game this sunday, not to say that he's going to come out balling against the 49ers(nothing to brag about) but atleast get a glimps of what he may or may not have
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2008, 03:04:14 PM » |
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Diesal, if we just want to see a Colt in a game because the season is just about over, I can see giving him a quarter or two but I do not think that it will be an audition for a possible starting position. Flacco and Ryan were first round talents who were projected to start whereas Colt was a 6th rounder with 2 more established QB in front of him, so if we would've changed QB's we would have probably seen Collins at the position rather than Colt anyways.
As far as Campbell goes, I agree that we have had extraordinary paitience with him as fans and we continue to hang on to hopes. I really think that he will be our starter for at least another season but I hope that we bring in a more reliable back up so that we would have someone to finally replace him with if next season's results are the same after we, hopefully upgrade the line.
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2008, 02:19:39 PM » |
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After watching the iggles game last Sunday, sadly any optimism I had for Campbell began to disappear. We always say he doesn't have enough time, last Sunday he did. I consistently compared his pocket to MacNabbs and their honestly wasn't much of a difference, the amount of time they had was quite similar, but Jason still held on to the ball, made the wrong read or missed open receivers. We ran play action we rolled him out, and what does he do? Runs out of bounds rather than throw the ball away, this guy just plain doesn't get it, he can't play at the NFL speed is what I am coming to realize. He took one shot downfield and it was to a double covered Santana Moss, he consistently made the wrong read, and can he please please please stop calling audibles to run plays when he see's pressure, all that comes of it, is a 1 yd gain or loss. Many will say he doesn't have the receivers, I refuse to accept this as an excuse, no one thought ATL had any receivers last year, no one though Baltimore had any receivers last year, and yet now we see Roddy White as a premier receiver in the NFL, after only 1 year with his new qb. My point here is besides qb's, skill players come a dime a dozen there isn't much difference in most receivers besides the upper echelon Steve Smith's, Randy Moss' and TO's, a good qb makes receivers look much better. I'm not saying all the teams woes fall on Campbell, but he's going on his fifth season, how long must we as fans make excuses for a professional who is not getting their job done. You can blame the o-line but they are who we thought they were, Heyer is an undrafted free-agent, and the rest of the line is old and won't be able to play a full season without injury. Campbell however was a first round draft pick, who we traded up to get, and so far he is not who we thought he was. I understand we all hope we didn't trade up for a first round bust, but as time has passed it really appears we did. However with all this being said, only time will tell Campbell's future as a Redskin, and yes I believe he deserves to start next season, but if by week 5 Campbell is still making poor decisions and continues to have that clueless look on his face after every three and out, then something needs to change, it is only fair to the rest of the team.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 10:29:24 PM » |
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Hey guys...all I have to say is that J-CAM's inabilities to advance his development as an NFL QB are just mere results of the constant change this team and organization go through year after year. Yes, J-CAM makes bad decisions. YES, the o-line is old and injured. However, when you have a first-year coach with no head-coaching experience calling the plays and having communication problems with players, and an owner and general manager who don't know JACK about football and won't establish ANY continuity whatsoever, there are obviously going to be issues and this is just one of them.
An earlier post did say that systems can change every year, and that's a good point. On the other hand, when you change systems and bad luck continues (or you don't make the CORRECT kinds of changes), something's wrong. I've said it before and I'll say it now...if the Redskins are going to be good again, the organization needs an overhaul.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 11:32:30 PM » |
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Completely agree Alexander, this teams failures fall on the front office and Danny more than any player or coach, but hey at least he's not as bad as Jerry Jones.
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Diesel247
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2009, 08:04:29 PM » |
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Good post Bass, and Alex you guys make good points...but 4real how much longer do we wait for JC to be IT! Yes he's going to get one more year to prove himself but even if we change the line it's going to take another year on top of that for the line to get some chemistry together...I hope I'm wrong but chances are that will happen. So again JC will not have a line for him...so what will his/our/coaches excuse be then? If we rebuild, we need to do it all the way, even if it hurts for a couple to a few more years
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2009, 09:27:42 PM » |
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Good post Bass, and Alex you guys make good points...but 4real how much longer do we wait for JC to be IT! Yes he's going to get one more year to prove himself but even if we change the line it's going to take another year on top of that for the line to get some chemistry together...I hope I'm wrong but chances are that will happen. So again JC will not have a line for him...so what will his/our/coaches excuse be then? If we rebuild, we need to do it all the way, even if it hurts for a couple to a few more years
Deez this makes a lot of sense and has been a point that I have made in the past. I do not think that he will be there long enough to get the line corrected, especially if he doesn't figure out a way to get the ball out a little quicker.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 04:04:30 AM » |
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Can't just throw it to the most open guy, good WRs are good WRs because they can beat the coverage even when not wide open. Results in way too many short dump passes and is very defendable.
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Smile, you've got tryfuhl
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