Campbell compared to other "would be" playoff QB's

[Mike Bass]

Since I have been reading a lot on Redskins message boards about how Jason Campbell should be benched in favor of Colt and I really hadn't seen why but I know that I could've missed  something. I decided to compare Campbell to the QB's on the teams who would be in the playoffs if the season was to end today. As you can see by the following stats, which IMO, are some of the major gauges of how a QB is performing, Campbell stacks up pretty well with these QB's and is indeed playing well enough to lead his team to the playoffs.

When our team starts to lose or perform poorly, the first finger is always pointed at the QB but it takes a team effort to win in the NFL and right now we are not getting what we need from the team in whole.

I think that we should give Campbell a break on this one because he for one is doing his part even though he has been sacked 32 times this season. That is more than anyone on the following lists besides Ben Roethlisberger who has been sacked 33  times but his team is blessed with the #1 defense in the NFL. Like Pittsburgh, there has to be more than one factor to make a team a winning one and all has to work together and I do think that there are some very important improvements that has to be made to complete our playoff run, if it is to be completed but QB is not one that comes to mind right now.

                                                 Completion percentage                       
Brett Favre       New York Jets                68.7%      268-390                     
Kurt Warner      Arizona Cardinals             68.4%      323-472                     
Jeff Garcia        Tampa Bay Buccaneers    67.2%      182-271                     
Jason Campbell  Washington Redskins        63.8 %     241-378                   

Peyton Manning  Indianapolis Colts           63.1%      281-445                   
Eli Manning       N.Y Giants                      62.0        230-371                     
Matt Ryan        Atlanta Falcons               61.0%      203-333                   
Joe Flacco        Baltimore Ravens             61.0%      202-331                   
Jay Cutler        Denver Broncos                60.8         273-449                   
Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers       60.6         208-253                   
Gus Frerrote     Minnesota Vikings             58.8         171-291                   
Kerry Collins      Tenneseee Titans            58.5         192-328                   
Jake Delhomme  Carolina Panthers             57.8         190-329                   
 
                                                    Yards Per Game

Kurt Warner                                          311.8            3741 yds.                 
Jay Cutler                                             282.8            3393                       
Peyton Manning                                    245.7            2948                         
Brett Favre                                           225.7            2708                       
Matt Ryan                                            218.8             2625                       
Eli Manning                                           218.7             2624                       
Jason Campbell                                     213.3            2560                         
Jeff Garcia                                            211.3            1902                         
Gus Frerotte                                          208.7            2087                       
Jake Delhomme                                      202.2            2427                       
Ben Roethlisberger                                  201.9            2412                       
Joe Flacco                                                 189.7           2276                         
Kerry Collins                                            177.1             2125                         

                                                          Interceptions
Jeff Garcia                                                3                                               
Jason Campbell                                        4
Kerry Collins                                            4
Matt Ryan                                                 6
Eli Manning                                                8
Joe Flacco                                                 9
Jake Delhomme                                        9
Kurt Warner                                              11
Ben Roethlisberger                                   12
Peyton Manning                                        12
Gus Frerotte                                             13
Jay Cutler                                                 13
Brett Favre                                               14                                               

                                                      Passer Rating
Kurt Warner                                             99.4
Jeff Garcia                                               92.5
Eli Manning                                             91.3
Matt Ryan                                                91.2
Brett Favre                                              90.4
Jason Campbell                                       87.8
Jay Cutler                                                87.8
Peyton Manning                                       85.3
Joe Flacco                                                82.3
Kerry Collins                                            81.9
Jake Delhomme                                        81.7
Ben Roethlisberger                                   80.0
Gus Frerrotte                                           76.1                                                 
                                                 

 


 
 

[Yellow31]

I was running these number in my head the other day.  They are soild but I also think that they reflect our troubles in the red zone.  The ratio of yards gained to touchdowns scored is very low.  Do I think that this is Jason's fault? I do not.  It takes more than one player or coach to come up short so often.

[Mike Bass]

The red-zone scoring problems could be attributed to our lack of size at the receiver position. I don't care if we had Bart Starr and Vince Lombardi, we are still going to have to have the receivers to make the red-zone scoring work.

The top 10 scoring teams in the league  has 2 constants one being they all have more receiving TD's than rushing TD's (most almost 2:1) and the other being that they  (with exception of the Jets) have larger receivers or TE's leading them in receiving TD's.

We have to start looking to get Malcolm Kelly the ball down there.

[Yellow31]

Kelly and Thomas need to keep thier heads in the game and not commit penalities.

[stwasm]

It amazes me that no one has mentioned the obvious deficiencies on the offensive line, which are probably the big contributors to the lack of scoring and execution.  Joe Montana wouldn't have success in this offense because of the lack of protection this line has been providing lately. 

[Mike Bass]

It amazes me that no one has mentioned the obvious deficiencies on the offensive line, which are probably the big contributors to the lack of scoring and execution.  Joe Montana wouldn't have success in this offense because of the lack of protection this line has been providing lately. 

I can't agree more Stwasm, a QB has to have room and time to pass...If Campbell wasn't getting sacked last night, he was either throwing with a hand on his shoulder or throwing with someone in his face.

[stwasm]

And it gets worse as Samuels is now out for the season and Jansen may be gone, too.  This is what years of giving away draft picks, depending solely on free agency and going after superstars does to you. You sacrifice depth and end up with a team that can't block and can't rush the passer consistently. It's going to take at least two good drafts to get there and I'm not happy that it's Danny & Vinny running it.

[Mike Bass]

And it gets worse as Samuels is now out for the season and Jansen may be gone, too.  This is what years of giving away draft picks, depending solely on free agency and going after superstars does to you. You sacrifice depth and end up with a team that can't block and can't rush the passer consistently. It's going to take at least two good drafts to get there and I'm not happy that it's Danny & Vinny running it.

Well you were right, we are just about at the desperation stage on the o-line. We are very old there and besides Rhinehart, I do not know who we are going to have to replace our aging players.

[Yellow31]

You have to give the Ravens D some credit as you grade our O line.  They have carried that young QB and the team as a whole, they aren't number two by luck.  The past four games have been against the first and second ranked defenses and the third and fourth losses were against  division rivals that wore down our D line.  We can continue to find fauld with the O line but I doubt any other line would have faired any better in this stretch of games.

[Mike Bass]

Like Randy Thomas said and he seems to be a stand up guy, it is their job to block any line that they face....no excuses

But I think that Stwasm's point is and I know that mine is that the F.O should've put some concentration on the line in the draft way before now and the linemen would've probably been ready by now. The line plays fine when healthy and the season is early but I think that the average age on the line is somewhere between 32 or 33 years old.That's about 9-11 years per linemen, is a lot of pounding and the season can wear on them much faster than it would a younger man, so bringing in a linemen or 2 for depth, as Stwasm indicated would've seemed to be the thing to do way before now.There is no need to push ourselves into a corner if we knew that the entire line was aging quickly. I hate to have to go into a season with 3 out of the 5 linemen being rookies or second year players who haven't played much.

Yes those teams has to get credit but the fault is somewhere because we are not scoring points and Jason is not getting any time. We should be able to win some of those battles...We are 29th in scoring in a 32 team league.

[Hitman21]

You know I'm about sick of Stupid ass redskin fan that can get off the Colt Brennen cock and see the Freakin obvious.  I thought our fans were "SUPER SMART". I thought we put this shit to rest after the Giants game, when you Blind skins fans blamed JC for the lack of offense. I don't give a dam if it is sonny J in his prime or Colt  or any top QB in the NFL. If the offense Line doesn't MAN UP and block someone There is no QB on the face of this planet that can complete pass short or Deep. 

JC did have enough time to find guys open down field to complete the Big passes down field. If he just had the time there has been many times that guys have been open on the deep pass. HEY Blind skins fan what about all the dropped passed by ARE,Cooley,Moss. I thought it was the QB job to hit you in the fuckin hands.

Although Chris has been playing with an injuried knee and Jason has just flat out sucked ass,almost everyone with the exception of pete has been a Swinging doors out there just allowing every tom dick and harry to have free reign on our QB.  I'm not going to address this again at all. Most of our BLIND ASS SKINS FANS are in and on ES that why I left that forum and I fine it on alot of message boards. I must say we don't have that problem at least I don't think.  I swear the next MOFO skins fan I hear talkin about Colt Brennen and that JC should be Benched I going to Choke the life out of them RIGHT IN FRONT OF JESUS.

Thanks for the stats Big Mike it a Dam shame we as Fan that know football and can see the FACTS have to keep Justifying Jasen Campbell and he play when it's not his fault.


Hail

[redskin_ty]

We have struggles on offense but i think that it all starts with the oline.  These last couple of weeks they have really stunk it up.  Jason needs more time to throw the ball and when they blitz they are always picking the wrong guy and that leaves a free hit on Jason.  The receivers also are not helping jason when he does get a chance to throw they drop it!!!!!   

[stwasm]

While the line, I think, is the main source of the offensive woes, it all comes back to a front office that thinks it's just a player or two away, and can focus on the Chad Johnsons and Lance Briggs of the world.  That's far from the case and I hope it wises up and starts building from the inside out instead of trying to put fannies in seats with big names.  Of course, that just means we'll have more Sundays like we've had the last few weeks while the youngsters I hope the FO drafts get game-ready.

[BMahoney]

The offensive line has been bad... Yes.  Campbell has been descent when he is given time... Yes.  But I think what people are really mad about, is Jason knows the o-line is bad, he is well aware he doesn't have the same amount of time as other qb's yet he continues to not get rid of the ball when he see's the blitz coming... its a little bit confusing to me.  And yes obviously some of this falls on zorn who allowed a center play tackle against Suggs without any help from a TE, but Campbell has to have the confidence in his game to start making a few more audibles when teams show pressure.  Entirely too many times during that Ravens game was their an obvious blitz coming and yet Campbell still held on to the ball as if he thought the blitz would actually be picked up.  If he really wants to establish himself as a franchise qb in this league, he is going to need to learn to adjust his play based on the talent he has surrounding him.

[Mike Bass]

The offensive line has been bad... Yes.  Campbell has been descent when he is given time... Yes.  But I think what people are really mad about, is Jason knows the o-line is bad, he is well aware he doesn't have the same amount of time as other qb's yet he continues to not get rid of the ball when he see's the blitz coming... its a little bit confusing to me.  And yes obviously some of this falls on zorn who allowed a center play tackle against Suggs without any help from a TE, but Campbell has to have the confidence in his game to start making a few more audibles when teams show pressure.  Entirely too many times during that Ravens game was their an obvious blitz coming and yet Campbell still held on to the ball as if he thought the blitz would actually be picked up.  If he really wants to establish himself as a franchise qb in this league, he is going to need to learn to adjust his play based on the talent he has surrounding him.

Can't argue with this Mahoney..Campbell really does need to get the ball off a little quicker since he knows what he is working with. I also agree that he is definitely not perfect but I think that he is heads and shoulders over any other QB that we have right now.