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« on: May 13, 2008, 11:48:22 AM »

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamReport?categoryId=67062&type=InsideSlant

inside slant:

Ask a Redskins quarterback or receiver after the first practice of Jim Zorn's first minicamp on May 2 to outline the differences in Zorn's offense from those of Joe Gibbs or associate coach Al Saunders, and you might get wide-ranging answers.

"There's a lot to this offense, but you can grab it quick," said receiver Santana Moss. "It's not brain-wrecking or nothing like that. Not saying that our other one was brain-wrecking, but for a new offense, with the high power they play at in their offense, you kinda expect to get a lot of 'Oh man!' It pretty much lets you know what to do and when to do it. You make the rest happen."
However, receiver Antwaan Randle El said the biggest difference is that the players can improvise in Zorn's West Coast scheme.

"It's almost like you're free," Randle El said. "You've got a lot of options. You run to get open. The quarterback plays off you. It's not the quarterback drops back and throws to that one spot. He's waiting for you. Once we get that down ... run that route time and time again and [quarterback Jason Campbell] seeing it."

Campbell said that since he, Moss and Randle El have started just 14 games as a trio, they need to work on their chemistry as well on the nuances of the offense.

That idea was complicated by Randle El's arthroscopic knee surgery on May 6 and the hamstring the quarterback strained the next day. However, both could be back when the Redskins resume organized team activities on June 2.

"It's not a real hard offense to learn, but there (are) a lot of key things you have to keep in mind as far as technique-wise, reading coverages and getting the ball out of your hands fast," Campbell said. "In this offense, the quarterback has more hands-on control. It comes with being on the same page. That's going to take time after practice and time away from the coaching staff as far as us communicating with each other and finding out what reads we see on different coverages, what are his adjustments and what are my adjustments so we can all be on the same page."

According to Randle El, that page turns faster than in the past.

"(The offense is) up-tempo," he said. "(Coach Zorn) wants you to get up to the ball and get moving."

Zorn's early evaluation of the transition to his offense was positive.

"There was a pattern where Jason looked to one side and it was covered and then he looked over the middle, it was covered and then he turned all the way around and hit the back coming out the other side," Zorn said. "Those are the kinds of things that you put in on the board ... and then you hope it gets executed out here. That's when you know that the playbook, all the talk ... connects with the player."



Notes and Quotes:

Quarterback Jason Campbell finished the first three-day OTA session on May 7 watching from the sideline after mildly straining his left hamstring during that practice, but coach Jim Zorn wasn't that upset.

"Jason was feeling his hamstrings all along and I think it was because I have him sinking down [under center] a little bit," Zorn said. "It's the change. I was kind of excited about it. Not that I wanted him to tweak his hamstring, just the fact that different things are happening to his body. He's going to be fine."
--Antwaan Randle El has missed just one game in his six NFL seasons, but the receiver left Redskin Park on crutches on May 7 after having his right knee scoped the previous day after on and off pain since last September.

"I banged it a little against Philly [Week 2] last year," Randle El said. It didn't bother me [again] until about Game 8 and then it came back out of nowhere for Game 12 [when he missed the Buffalo game]. Then it didn't bother me for the rest of the season or in the playoffs until I came back out here. Friday and Saturday, I played pretty well and didn't have any problem with it. Saturday night, it kinda swelled up. Sunday, we iced it, but then we got an MRI and found out it needed to be cleaned up a little bit."

And since it's only May, Randle El isn't going to rush his recovery even though the Redskins have a new passing attack.

"I want to try it make it back for OTAs, but if not, I'm not going to push it because the most important thing will be training camp," he said. "I'm not too concerned about it. If early June is too early, I'll wait until late June and run some routes on my own."

--Zorn was happy with how rookie receivers Devin Thomas (34th overall) and Malcolm Kelly (51st) handled their NFL debut weekend.

"I like the speed and the acceleration down the field," Zorn said. "There was one time in a one-on-one that Malcolm beat the defender and we didn't get the ball to him. As he saw the ball sail over his head he slowed down. My emphasis was 'Don't slow down, speed up, just make an effort.' It also helps a QB to know how bad a pass that really was."

--In an eventful end to minicamp, seventh-year running back Clinton Portis challenged second-year safety LaRon Landry, who had just come across the field to catch him on a screen pass, to a 40-yard dash.

As many of their teammates whopped and hollered, Landry just held off Portis.

"They'll race again," Zorn said after the race. "I bet it's not over."

Bet it is now that Zorn suspects that Portis strained the hip flexor that kept him out of the May 7 practice during the race.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "We don't have people watching us constantly and telling us what to do like we're little kids. He puts it on ourselves. We're being treated like men." -- Fullback Mike Sellers on the change from Joe Gibbs to new coach Jim Zorn.



Strategy and Personnel
On May 6, the Redskins signed quarterback Derek Devine and safety Patrick Ghee and cut defensive end Alonzo Dotson, quarterback Bret Meyer and safeties Kevin Mitchell and Justin Scott, all of whom signed as rookie free agents last week.

Devine and Ghee were both in training camp with Seattle last year so Devine has more experience working with new coach Jim Zorn than does holdover backup Sam Hollenbach or rookie Colt Brennan, the other candidates for the No. 3 job behind Jason Campbell and Todd Collins.
FRANCHISE PLAYER: None

TRANSITION PLAYER: None.

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

--G Rick DeMulling was signed in September, cut in November and re-signed in December. He played sparingly in six games and will only return with a minimum contract.

--LB Randall Godfrey signed in training camp because of his history with assistant head coach Gregg Williams. Godfrey was a solid run defender while starting four games because of injuries to Marcus Washington and Rocky McIntosh. Godfrey, who mulled retirement last year, will be 35 in April and might choose to follow Williams to Jacksonville rather than return to the Redskins.

--TE Brian Kozlowski played in at least parts of the past four years for the Redskins. He was signed during the season in 2006 and 2007. He had one catch in three games last year and with Joe Gibbs gone, maybe the 37-year-old Koz is finally gone for good, too.

--WR Keenan McCardell was the Redskins' 12th-round pick in 1991. He finally made his Washington debut in October 2007. McCardell caught 22 passes in 10 games and doesn't plan to retire at 38. He has experience in the West Coast offense so perhaps new coach Jim Zorn wants him back.

--C/G Mike Pucillo was the extra lineman in jumbo packages in 2006. However, Pucillo's surgically repaired back gave out in him in October and Lorenzo Alexander assumed his old role. Pucillo, who'll be 29 in July, will have to prove he's fully healthy to receive a new contract.

--S Omar Stoutmire played regularly as a backup in 2005 before signing with New Orleans where he started most of 2006. Stoutmire returned in 2007 but was cut and re-signed twice while playing sparingly in three games. Stoutmire will be 34 in July and is probably finished.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS: None.

EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS FREE AGENTS: None.

PLAYERS ACQUIRED

--WR Jerome Mathis: Not tendered as RFA by Texans; terms unknown.

PLAYERS RE-SIGNED

--LS Ethan Albright: Potential UFA; terms unknown.

--DT Ryan Boschetti: UFA; terms unknown.

--RB Nehemiah Broughton: Not tendered as ERFA; terms unknown.

--RB/KR Rock Cartwright: UFA; $3.55M/3 yrs, $300,000 SB/$300,000 RB; $200,000 RB '09; 2008 cap: $705,000.

--QB Todd Collins: UFA; $9M/3 yrs, $3M SB.

--OT Jason Fabini: UFA; $870,000/1 yr, $40,000 SB; 2008 cap: $485,000.

--P Derrick Frost: UFA; $805,000/1 yr, $200,000 SB.

--K Shaun Suisham: ERFA; terms unknown.

PLAYERS LOST

--QB Mark Brunell: UFA Saints; 2 yrs, $1M SB, other terms unknown.

--WR Reche Caldwell: UFA Rams; $645,000/1 yr, $40,000 SB.

--WR Brandon Lloyd (released; post-June 1 designation).

--CB David Macklin: UFA Rams; $770,000/1 yr, $40,000 SB.

--S Pierson Prioleau: UFA Jaguars; terms unknown.

--OT Kevin Sampson (released/failed physical).

--C Ross Tucker: UFA; retired





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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 12:28:17 PM »

Great read......nice to hear the players are liking the offense so far, although I found Sellers quote very interesting.  Am I wrong/heartless to say that Gibbs not being around is a little refreshing?  I feel like we are getting real quotes about the schemes and practices rather than the usual "great effort/redskins football/PR" type quotes we had from JJG.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 01:28:36 PM »

yea I really agree with what you said about PR.  It seems like the players are being themselves this season, and thats how first time coaches have to allow it.  I have faith its all going to work out for the best.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 01:41:28 AM »

WAY TO GO MR. BLACHE!!!

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/WAS/10827874

The switch from the deposed Gregg Williams to new defensive boss Greg Blache is supposed to be as minor as the number of G's in their first names. After all, as D-line coach, Blache helped Williams run a defense that ranked in the NFL's top 10 in three of the past four years.

What's more, Blache and the players had said that they expected the new man in charge to only "tweak" the existing system.

However, minicamp revealed that there are substantial differences between Williams, now Jacksonville's coordinator, and Blache, Chicago's coordinator from 1999-2003. For example, Williams' beloved "packages," which numbered well into the teens, have been considerably reduced.

"We will have fewer packages because this is about the players," Blache said. "This is not about building the perfect castle. It's about giving the players something they can execute in the heat of battle and under stressful situations. The biggest thing is being able to execute, get to the football and knock the ball out. We're trying to be a hard, physical defense that's intimidating with our speed and hitting ability and you can't do that when you're thinking about 20,000 different things. You can do that when you're comfortable knowing what you have to do. And that's what we are going to try and focus on."

Left end Phillip Daniels, who played for the Bears from 2000-03, is the only Redskin with experience in a Blache-led defense.

"This is the same defense we ran in Chicago," Daniels said. "Greg's only aggressive when he has to be, where Gregg (Williams) would mix it all in. If we can stop teams with our base defenses, we're not going to blitz."

One thing that hasn't changed is Blache's contentment with his personnel. The Redskins used their first four draft picks on offensive players and their only free agent signee was a kick returner even though Daniels is 35, middle linebacker London Fletcher will be 33 on Monday and left tackle Cornelius Griffin (31) and strongside linebacker Marcus Washington (31 in October) have been battered in recent years.

"We have some very talented people, regardless of their age. They compete at a high level," Blache said. "They're capable of winning in this league. They proved it last season. ... You don't worry about what you want, you make do with what you have."

Right end Andre Carter is the only high-profile free agent lineman signed by the Redskins since 2004 and they have yet to choose a lineman before the fifth round under Blache.

"That's why they call us coaches," Blache said. "They don't call us interior decorators. We have to find guys with a passion for the game and coach them to be able to do things that they're successful at in our system. Our stuff will be tailor-made to our people. So if we have an injury, you'll see a change to be able to suit the guy that gets that spot. We'll be as good as our people are. And right now I like the people we have."


-----Another notable quote from the article....

--Jon Jansen, the starting right tackle in every game for which he's been healthy since he was drafted in the second round in 1999, is working some at center as he recovers from the broken leg and dislocated ankle that ended his 2007 season in the opener. With swingman Mike Pucillo not re-signed, starting left guard Pete Kendall is the only proven backup to center Casey Rabach. And since Kendall's knees keep him from practicing every day, Jansen and third-rounder Chad Rinehart will take some snaps at center this summer.

"Who knows, maybe I can extend my career a couple of years," Jansen said
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 08:48:44 AM »

Great info, thanks for the post.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 09:43:20 AM »

That's good stuff.  I can't wait to see what happens in game time situations against real defenses though - I mean teams that don't have an edge by being in the same locker room.

I know Greg Blache said he was not changing much but it does seem like he won't be as aggressive as Gregg Williams.  Maybe the lack of aggressiveness will allow better coverages since they won't be blitzing so much.  Although, GW didn't blitz a whole lot at first last year after "simplifying" his D.  Higher take-away numbers will also be key this year.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2008, 11:30:02 AM »

I really like the Sellers quote.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 11:42:54 AM »

I know that Gregg Williams did run a lot of blitz schemes in his tenure as the skins DC, but I couldn't help but notice the predictability of his blitzing.  If a safety came up to the line THEY WERE GOING TO BLITZ, if linebackers crowded the line THEY WERE GOING TO BLITZ.  It wasn't very hard for other teams to pick up, and we would end up with too few bodies in the secondary and an ineffective blitz, which usually led to big gains down the field for the opponent (though definitely not every time).  What I hope to see from Blache is some disguised blitzing, I would love to see Landry come up to the line and then pop back in coverage (he is one of the few safeties that has the speed to do so).  I would like to see our linebacker consistently coming up to the line and usually dropping back in coverage but once in a while actually bring one of the linebackers bring the heat.  If our pressure can be disguised this season, which I think it will be (now that we don't have an arrogant DC who believes his schemes can do no wrong), I see big things ahead for our defense, in particular I expect to see a lot more turnovers.  Just my 2 cents though (I could be completely wrong), I know Gregg is an excellent DC and really helped the Redskins, but I just couldn't help but notice how predictable our D seemed at times.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2008, 01:38:56 PM »

That's good stuff.  I can't wait to see what happens in game time situations against real defenses though - I mean teams that don't have an edge by being in the same locker room.

I know Greg Blache said he was not changing much but it does seem like he won't be as aggressive as Gregg Williams.  Maybe the lack of aggressiveness will allow better coverages since they won't be blitzing so much.  Although, GW didn't blitz a whole lot at first last year after "simplifying" his D.  Higher take-away numbers will also be key this year.

I agree to a certain extent CT but do I not think that Blache is planning to lose any aggression on D, but instead being MORE aggressive, pressure-wise from his front 4. Carter is a monster so we should not have to worry about that side of the ball but with our DT's being a bit of a liability against the pass and do not get much pressure, I think that we will see more stunts from the other three linemen to help us get pressure rather than bringing up a safety or a LB and rushing them.

You're right though, this will indeed allow for better pass coverages by the back seven and more turnovers.

Other than that I expect to see that same aggressive ball-hawking D that we saw in the Minnesota game last year.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 02:04:01 PM »

Great read......nice to hear the players are liking the offense so far, although I found Sellers quote very interesting.  Am I wrong/heartless to say that Gibbs not being around is a little refreshing?  I feel like we are getting real quotes about the schemes and practices rather than the usual "great effort/redskins football/PR" type quotes we had from JJG.

Player quotes aside BigMike, IMO it is definitely NOT refreshing that JG is not around. The overall stabilty of the program now is like night and day compared to the Snyder years before Gibbs II and whatever success that we have under JZ will be due to the ground work that was laid by Mr. Gibbs.
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2008, 12:09:07 PM »

Great read......nice to hear the players are liking the offense so far, although I found Sellers quote very interesting.  Am I wrong/heartless to say that Gibbs not being around is a little refreshing?  I feel like we are getting real quotes about the schemes and practices rather than the usual "great effort/redskins football/PR" type quotes we had from JJG.

Player quotes aside BigMike, IMO it is definitely NOT refreshing that JG is not around. The overall stabilty of the program now is like night and day compared to the Snyder years before Gibbs II and whatever success that we have under JZ will be due to the ground work that was laid by Mr. Gibbs.

Yes that is true.  I wasn't really talking about the actual football as much as just sound bites and interviews I hear.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 08:25:00 AM »

Player quotes aside BigMike, IMO it is definitely NOT refreshing that JG is not around. The overall stabilty of the program now is like night and day compared to the Snyder years before Gibbs II and whatever success that we have under JZ will be due to the ground work that was laid by Mr. Gibbs.
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I whole heartly agree with you Mike Bass.  There are going to be a lot of people eating crow from the negative comments they have made about Coach Gibbs.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2008, 12:12:53 PM »

I don't know about that, while Coach Gibbs may have been inspirational and a great leader, there was no doubt that his game appeared out dated in his second tenure.  Our team was far too predictable on either side of the ball, and may be this season will run plays according to players abilities rather than forcing players into a scheme they don't fit in, (look for CP to break out).
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2008, 12:34:13 PM »

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Player quotes aside BigMike, IMO it is definitely NOT refreshing that JG is not around. The overall stabilty of the program now is like night and day compared to the Snyder years before Gibbs II and whatever success that we have under JZ will be due to the ground work that was laid by Mr. Gibbs.

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I whole heartly agree with you Mike Bass.  There are going to be a lot of people eating crow from the negative comments they have made about Coach Gibbs.

Yeah Y41, the team was in total disarray before Gibbs arrived and he bought it from a mighty long way and to where it looks like we are headed in the right direction.

I do not think that anyone is going to "eat crow" though because when the team starts to win because of the foundation he laid, I think that what he did will be forgotten and all the credit will go to Zorn from the fans although I think that Zorn will recognize the fact that he was handed a team that is capable of doing pretty big things.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2008, 01:11:12 PM »

To me it is all about progression.  Zorn must now take the team he inherited and build upon what GibbsII started.  The team was a mess when Gibbs got here.  No discipline whatsoever.  Zorn doesn't have that problem.  He just needs to implement a modern offense, and I think he will have that covered...
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