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Mike Bass
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« on: May 03, 2008, 11:05:48 PM »

Although we drafted and already have talented WR's and TE's, I think that the progression of Campbell will be the most important part of making our offense work. I know that we have Collins as a back up and I am happy about that but I would rather see our young guy, with better tools lead our offense. This is where I think that Zorn is going to really help and with this article I think that he is already starting to pay dividends...

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=35587

Campbell Making Transiton to New Offense
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
 May 3, 2008
 


It was the Redskins' first mini-camp practice of 2008, and Jason Campbell stood confident in the pocket. He saw his primary receiver covered. He saw his secondary receiver covered.
 

So Campbell turned and threw to a running back in the flat.


The play caught the attention of Jim Zorn.

It's one reason why Zorn is happy to stake his first year as head coach on Campbell's ability at quarterback.

"Those are the kind of things you put on the board, talk about it in a position meeting and then you hope gets executed out here," Zorn said. "Nobody set him up for it. He just did it. That is when you know that the playbook--all the talk and all the work that coaches do--connects with the player."

Campbell is entering the 2008 season learning his seventh offense in the last eight years.

The new one is Zorn's version of the West Coast offense.

Campbell has familiarity with the West Coast offense because he played in one during his senior year at Auburn. He had his most productive college season that year, throwing for 2,700 yards and 20 touchdowns and leading the Tigers to a perfect 13-0 record.

The last two years, Campbell played in Al Saunders' timing and rhythm offense.

The West Coast offense emphasizes short and intermediate routes.

Campbell is delving into Zorn's new playbook and adjusting to different pass routes and different check-downs.

Campbell is confident that his transition to Zorn's offense will be seamless.

"It's really helping me because I went through this my senior year at Auburn," he sad. "A lot of things we're doing right now, I can feel the rhythm of it because I've been in that offense before. I can pick up things quicker because everything is not new to me."


Zorn understands Campbell's background in the West Coast offense, but he wants to start from scratch with his new quarterback.

Since February, Zorn has been working with Campbell, making adjustments in his footwork and fine-tuning his technique to better fit the West Coast offense.

"I am going to assume that Jason knows nothing, so that we are starting from square one," Zorn said. "It's just to make sure that we cover everything...I am not going to try to skip steps that it takes to coach, that it takes to get him to play the game like he has done all his life."


The 2008 season promises to be a big one for Campbell.

In three NFL seasons, Campbell has shown steady progress as a passer. Last year, in 13 games, he completed 250-of-417 passes--a 60 percent completion percentage--for 2,700 yards, 12 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. His QB rating was a respectable 77.6.

Campbell's season ended in Week 14 last year when he suffered a dislocated kneecap injury. Four months later, he is fully healthy again.

As a starter, Campbell's won-loss record as a starter is 8-12. He has struggled at times in the red zone and in leading game-winning drives.

Campbell knows he has room for improvement, in everything from how he plays quarterback to his approach in game situations.

"[Coach Zorn] told me, 'I don't want you to go out there and play the game so mechanical," Campbell said. "He wants me to stay low and at one level [in the pocket]. As a quarterback, when you drop back, stay at one level the whole time."

"You're able to move quicker and react quicker to different things because you're at one level. That's the biggest adjustment."


The West Coast offense has proven to be quarterback friendly over the years. Hall of Famers Joe Montana and Steve Young, as well as future Hall of Famer Brett Favre, all excelled in it.

Zorn learned the West Coast offense under former Green Bay Packers and current Seattle Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren. Zorn coached Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck to a Pro Bowl last season.

As Campbell re-adjusts to the West Coast offense, he believes it gives him more hands-on control in the decision-making process on the field.

"There are a lot of key things to keep in mind as far as technique, reading coverage and getting the ball out of your hands fast," Campbell said. "That is the main thing about this offense: ball out fast and technique."


The Redskins drafted two wide receivers and a tight end in the early rounds of the April 26-27 NFL Draft.

Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly are both over 6-2 in height. They complement last year's starters Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El, both of whom are under 5-11.

"We have a lot of threats now," Campbell said. "We have more options now."

During Friday's practice, Campbell also tossed a deep pass 6-5 wide receiver Anthony Mix, who grabbed the ball despite good overage by cornerback John Eubanks. Mix bobbled the ball, but ultimately held on.

The play earned high marks from Zorn after practice.

Campbell is high on Mix, too. The two played together at Auburn and were re-united last season when the Redskins signed him to the roster from the New York Giants' practice squad.

"Mix is a great addition," Campbell said. "He has a lot of height. He brings a different demeanor to the game. Each [receiver] adds something to the position. Mix is doing a good job and he's going to be able to help us."

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 11:29:56 PM »

personaly i think he was held back in Saunders offense when he played it always looked like he played like a robot.  Sounds like he will be more comfortable in this offense
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 11:52:16 PM »

this will no doubt be campbells year!!
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2008, 12:10:23 AM »

this will be make or break
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 12:14:32 AM »

this will be make or break

You're right but I think that he will be alright. He made some bad decisions that cost us in some games but I am going to chalk it up to the options that he had. Bigger targets are going to help him out a lot.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2008, 02:05:01 AM »

This is no doubt a huge year for Campbell, but I think he'll have the following season as well.  Personally I have been down on Campbell for the past couple seasons, but don't think he is to blame as much as his playbook (Saunders/Gibbs) and key offensive injuries (CP,O-Line,WR's).  Either way I have believed he isn't the qb of the future and far too inaccurate, lacks the confidence and leadership skills required for a qb, and throws one of the least catchable balls in the NFL, at times.  But for some reason or another I have a feeling Campbell is just going to break out, probably has a lot to do with a WCO and 3 or 4 additional redzone threads.  I just have this feeling that once Campell gets in rhythm, much like many other qb's in the league he plays at an elite level.  We only got to see this rhythm from Campbell on a few drives last season, while putting together  drives to end a half of game, when running this no huddle offense Campbell appeared far more confident as well as accurate.  He was calling audibles and the offense looked like a thing of beauty, UNTIL we got to the redzone, then our beautiful drives would come to an ugly halt and Suisham misses a FG.  We won't have that problem this year, now we have more redzone threats than Chris Cooley and Mike Sellers (who should have been used far more frequently last season), in Kelly, Thomas and Davis.  These  redzone touchdowns that we could never get, will be the deciding factor in game upon game this season, probably would have made us an 11-5(atleast) team if we don't have redzone problems last season.  Not only will they win us games in the beginning, but they will also be a large boost for Campbell confidence, and that is why I believe he will unfold into one of the league's premier QBs this season.  HTTR
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2008, 05:17:14 AM »

 Has Zorn helped Campbell on his release point in his throwing motion? That's going to be the key for me in his trasition. Plus Jason needs to see the entire field this year. I felt he locked into Randel El too much last year. The November Dallas game was a perfect example.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2008, 09:49:42 AM »

This is no doubt a huge year for Campbell, but I think he'll have the following season as well.  Personally I have been down on Campbell for the past couple seasons, but don't think he is to blame as much as his playbook (Saunders/Gibbs) and key offensive injuries (CP,O-Line,WR's).  Either way I have believed he isn't the qb of the future and far too inaccurate, lacks the confidence and leadership skills required for a qb, and throws one of the least catchable balls in the NFL, at times.  But for some reason or another I have a feeling Campbell is just going to break out, probably has a lot to do with a WCO and 3 or 4 additional redzone threads.  I just have this feeling that once Campell gets in rhythm, much like many other qb's in the league he plays at an elite level.  We only got to see this rhythm from Campbell on a few drives last season, while putting together  drives to end a half of game, when running this no huddle offense Campbell appeared far more confident as well as accurate.  He was calling audibles and the offense looked like a thing of beauty, UNTIL we got to the redzone, then our beautiful drives would come to an ugly halt and Suisham misses a FG.  We won't have that problem this year, now we have more redzone threats than Chris Cooley and Mike Sellers (who should have been used far more frequently last season), in Kelly, Thomas and Davis.  These  redzone touchdowns that we could never get, will be the deciding factor in game upon game this season, probably would have made us an 11-5(atleast) team if we don't have redzone problems last season.  Not only will they win us games in the beginning, but they will also be a large boost for Campbell confidence, and that is why I believe he will unfold into one of the league's premier QBs this season.  HTTR

I agree, Campbell certainly had some accuracy problems and he can definitely work on his touch but Zorn is, supposedly a very good teacher and these things can be worked out.

Our mini-receivers did not help out much in the red-zone either. Without much field to get seperation in, I think that the smaller receiver becomes less of an asset in the red-zone and the bigger stronger guy who do not need much seperation but will out jump or out muscle the DB, was what we needed to help Campbell out here.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2008, 11:01:22 AM »

This is no doubt a huge year for Campbell, but I think he'll have the following season as well.  Personally I have been down on Campbell for the past couple seasons, but don't think he is to blame as much as his playbook (Saunders/Gibbs) and key offensive injuries (CP,O-Line,WR's).  Either way I have believed he isn't the qb of the future and far too inaccurate, lacks the confidence and leadership skills required for a qb, and throws one of the least catchable balls in the NFL, at times.  But for some reason or another I have a feeling Campbell is just going to break out, probably has a lot to do with a WCO and 3 or 4 additional redzone threads.  I just have this feeling that once Campell gets in rhythm, much like many other qb's in the league he plays at an elite level.  We only got to see this rhythm from Campbell on a few drives last season, while putting together  drives to end a half of game, when running this no huddle offense Campbell appeared far more confident as well as accurate.  He was calling audibles and the offense looked like a thing of beauty, UNTIL we got to the redzone, then our beautiful drives would come to an ugly halt and Suisham misses a FG.  We won't have that problem this year, now we have more redzone threats than Chris Cooley and Mike Sellers (who should have been used far more frequently last season), in Kelly, Thomas and Davis.  These  redzone touchdowns that we could never get, will be the deciding factor in game upon game this season, probably would have made us an 11-5(atleast) team if we don't have redzone problems last season.  Not only will they win us games in the beginning, but they will also be a large boost for Campbell confidence, and that is why I believe he will unfold into one of the league's premier QBs this season.  HTTR

I know that he has some problem with the short passes but he throws a good long ball!!!!!!  But when you run left on first down then run left on second and then are forced to throw on 3rd and long.  There is not much of surpise on what you are going to do, so that goes to getting in a rhythm.  He lost two games for us against Tampa Bay and Dallas but in the Tampa game I liked how he hung in there it was not his fault for all the fumbles!!!!  Overall this is the year that he has to get it done!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2008, 01:30:27 PM »

Campbell actually throws an extremely inaccurate longball in my opinion, do you not remember everyplay Moss beat someone deep and Campbell would overthrow him by 15 yds.  Campbell has the arm strength to throw an incredible longball, but I don't believe he has proven he can be accurate yet.  However, as I have said I don't think this is his fault, I blame it on an outdated offensive scheme, and injuries, which prevent Campbell from getting in the rhythm that is necessary to complete passes for 20+ accurately.  Thats why I believe and hope that with help from Zorn (on JC's mechanics), and a contemporary football scheme, Campbell will show many of the naysayers (which has included me) that he is a franchise qb.  If he doesn't were in for a loooong season, I just hope Danny Boy doesn't make any rash decisions and lets the team have more than just a 1 season to make attempt at winning.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2008, 03:10:41 PM »

Campbell actually throws an extremely inaccurate longball in my opinion, do you not remember everyplay Moss beat someone deep and Campbell would overthrow him by 15 yds

Campbell and Moss has not been a good combination and I really do not know which one, if any is at fault
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2008, 03:25:21 PM »

Moss definitely had his fair share of drops, but I believe he showed us that with a different qb in Collins he could still play at a high level.  Campbell never seems to be able to hit him in stride, which is key for speed based receiver like Moss, and while Campbell may not be entirely to blame, I believe he should accept most of the fault ( I can recall at least 4 or 5 times where Moss beat his man, if JC makes the pass accurately its a TD everytime, but instead he throws 10 yards past Moss)
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2008, 03:45:55 PM »

Moss definitely had his fair share of drops, but I believe he showed us that with a different qb in Collins he could still play at a high level.  Campbell never seems to be able to hit him in stride, which is key for speed based receiver like Moss, and while Campbell may not be entirely to blame, I believe he should accept most of the fault ( I can recall at least 4 or 5 times where Moss beat his man, if JC makes the pass accurately its a TD everytime, but instead he throws 10 yards past Moss)

You're right, Moss did look a lot better when Brunell was the starting QB and when Collins came in last year but I still think that Campbell has good stuff and shows it every now and then. His and Moss' seems like a marriage that just is not going to work. I think that as the season progress and now that Campbell has more options that you will see him looking more for the big guys.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2008, 05:18:36 PM »

I think JC will definitely go to his larger targets, as most young qb's do.  But I also expect Moss to get freed up easier, with the new receiving core demanding more attention.  When Moss gets free this season Campbell needs to be able to hit him and I full expect he will, I believe it relies  heavily on the rhythm and confidence that will be gained from the rhythm.  He won't be soo scared to throw a pick that he might leave a little off the ball and let the human GPS Moss track it down.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2008, 06:34:29 PM »

B-Money, lets look at some numbers from last season in our 9 wins that indicates to me that Moss and Campbell is just not clicking...
               
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Week 1: w/ Campbell- leading receiver: ARE (162 yds)- Moss (28 yds)
Week 2: w/ Campbell- leading receiver: Moss (89 yds)
Week 4: w/ Campbell- leading receiver: ARE (100 yds)- Moss (DNP) , Campbell's best game last season
Week 5: w/ Campbell- leading receiver: ARE (54 yds)- Moss (8 yds)
Week 9: w/ Campbell- leading receiver: Cooley (58 yds)- Moss (49 yds)

Week 14: w/ Campbell & Collins- leading receiver: Cooley (93 yds)- Moss (29 yds)
Week 15: w/ Collins- leading receiver: Moss (75 yds)
Week 16: w/ Collins- leading receiver: Moss (71 yds)
Week 17 : w/ Collins- leading receiver:Moss (115 yds)

Out of the games that Campbell started, Moss was the leading receiver in only one of them and the most yards that he gained was 49 in the others. But when Collins started he led the team in receiving yards in every game. It was the same with Brunell, Moss played great with Brunnell and we all know that Moss is a very good receiver and I think that Campbell is a very good QB but, IMO the connection between the two is just not there.
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