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« on: April 30, 2008, 01:46:46 PM »

http://realredskins.com/2008/04/29/results-more-important-than-process.aspx


The main complaint about the Washington Redskins draft that is making the rounds is that they didn't "address" the defensive line. It's a complaint heard almost every year as the Redskins do generally ignore the D-line during the annual selection meeting.

Of course, Rob Jackson of Kansas State, the defensive end that the Redskins took in the seventh round in the last dozen picks might take umbrage to such remarks, but nobody is expecting big things out of him, probably not even Mr. and Mrs. Jackson.

Not since 1997, when they tabbed Kennard Lang in the first round, have the Skins used their initial pick for a defensive lineman. Since then the first line of defense has received very limited draft-day attention in the form of late-round draft picks like Anthony Montgomery and Kedric Golston.

A funny thing has happened during the time that the Redskins have been neglecting the defensive line on the last weekend in April. The defense has been pretty good. Not necessarily great, not dominant, but good enough to win with.

How good? Starting with the 2000 season, the Redskins defense has been ranked 7, 13, 21, 24, 5, 9, 27, and 11 in points allowed. In those eight years they've been in the top 10 three times and in the top half of the league a total of five times.

Whatever method the Redskins are using to acquire defensive players has been working. To worry about where they have acquired their personnel is to be concerned with process over results.

The Redskins have not been mediocre this decade because of their defense. They have struggled because they haven't been able to score points. In that same eight-year span, from 2000-2007 their NFL rankings in point scored have been 24, 28, 25, 22, 31, 13, 20, and 18. They haven't been in the top 10 once and they were in the bottom half of the league in seven of the eight years.

That sounds to me like a team that needs to score more points. They have a ways to go here to move from being awful to merely run of the mill.

We keep on hearing that the Redskins should go after beefing up the defensive line because that's how the Giants won the Super Bowl. It's a copycat league and trying to overwhelm the other team with a fierce pass rush is a solid strategy in any era.

But the Giants weren't the team that was on the verge of being anointed the greatest of all time. That team was the Patriots, the team that added three veteran wide receivers in the offseason and became the greatest scoring machine in league history.

Now, which team do you want to copy? The one that lost six games, had to become road warriors, and needed a miracle throw and catch to become the champs? Or the one that cruised through its schedule undefeated, stayed at home for the playoffs and was a mis-timed jump by Assante Samuel on what would have been a game-ending interception away from the best season ever?

It's funny how just a couple of plays can turn the perception of how you should build your team. If the ball bounces out of David Tyree's grasp when he hits the ground, you should build your team to score points and obliterate the opposition. He catches it and suddenly every team needs to find an Osi and a Strahan in the middle rounds.

Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, and Malcolm Kelly will not turn Jason Campbell into Tom Brady. The Redskins will not win their first 18 games in 2008 or set the all time scoring record. But in time, perhaps as early as midseason, Thomas, Davis, and Kelly will be helping the Redskins score more points. By then Campbell should find the trio providing much more appealing targets than were Keenan McCardell, Reche Caldwell, and Todd Yoder.

If that happens, the biggest problem the team has had over the past eight years will be on its way to being solved.

They do not have to become a Pats-like dynamo to win more games. If they consistently can even score as many points as the average team in the league, that will be a major improvement.

Those who would rather fret over the process rather than look at the result will continue to do so. Too bad, they could be missing out on a lot of fun.
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2008, 02:37:37 PM »

MAN did Tandler or MB write this blog?...This guy was right on the money with everything that he said.
I think that most of us get our thoughts and ideas from the majority of the members on whatever forum that we frequent and they become a victim of group think rather than really looking at the facts at hand.

The defense has toted this team on its back on several occasions only to be worn down at end of games because of unsustained drives and the lack of the offenses ability to get the ball in the end zone, which is a momentum drainer. Hopefully this will change this year and the offense can control the TOP given our defense enough rest throughout the game.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2008, 02:41:32 PM »

Our D greatly improved when Pierson Prioleau signed with Jacksonville. I honestly think if he hadn't played so much last year we would have been like 12-4.

O.k. maybe 12-4 is a stretch but we would have been much better.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 03:38:28 PM »

I think Tandler really just put it on the money with this blog, two plays have determined this entire offseason.  Yes, everyone knows the importance of a de, but do you think had the Pats won the superbowl, Jax still would have moved up to 8 to get derrick harvey?  Then take quentin groves with their next pick, there has been a large population of bangwagon pass rush fans (I have been one myself), who believe pass rush is how you win the superbowl because the G-Men won.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2008, 04:22:14 PM »

Tandler is on point as usual. Our O has been less than stellar since before Joe came back, shoot it hasnt been good since Norv was here IMO. The D has had the last few 1st round draft choices spent onn it, and despite the tragic loss of Sean, it's still probably the stronger of the two. We needed this upgrade to assist Zorn in implementing his style of O, we had too many holes for one draft to fix, but IMO this was a heck of a start.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 04:30:01 PM »

Tandler is on point as usual. Our O has been less than stellar since before Joe came back, shoot it hasnt been good since Norv was here IMO. The D has had the last few 1st round draft choices spent onn it, and despite the tragic loss of Sean, it's still probably the stronger of the two. We needed this upgrade to assist Zorn in implementing his style of O, we had too many holes for one draft to fix, but IMO this was a heck of a start.

I agree Ez and welcome to the discussion board, I know that you have been a  member for quite a while but never posted here but I have seen your posts on a board that shall remain nameless and know that you are a very good poster and we hope to see you post more often here.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 04:36:07 PM »

Thanks MB, guess a lot of people didnt have an enjoyable experience there huh? I've been there for like 5 years, made some good friends, and like the name says Im Ez to get along with...no worries just B&G baby! I look forward to posting more here and getting some different perspectives also.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2008, 04:44:32 PM »

Thanks MB, guess a lot of people didnt have an enjoyable experience there huh? I've been there for like 5 years, made some good friends, and like the name says Im Ez to get along with...no worries just B&G baby! I look forward to posting more here and getting some different perspectives also.

It's a nice site Ez but once you get on the wrong side of that clique, wooooweee! There is no turning back but there is a lot of knowledgable fans there and the site is set up really well. But as you stated it is all about the B&G! and Tandler spoke nothing but the truth in this blog *segwaying back to the topic*
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 05:15:20 PM »

Loved this blog.  It really gives you another perspective and I agree with it.  I think we need to keep an eye on the DE and DT spot, but in no way did our drafting receivers with the first 3 picks hurt us.  We need to score points and if we can do that then everything else will fall into place.  We relied on our defense too many times in the past to make sure we maintained the lead and when it started to slip away, we never did anything about it.  Here's to a higher scoring offense this year and a defense that will keep us in the game.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 05:53:02 PM »

Sounds like you guys are talkinga bout the "self policing" extremeskins, while I love the site it has two major downfalls.  1.) The rude member policing that takes place against newer members, and 2.) the low percentage of valuable posts, about 1 in every thousand members has something to actually discuss about the redskins.  While there are members such as old fan to name one, who put forth some of the most intriguiging redskins arguments, and have ability to actually sway fans opinions on a certain player/coach/strategy.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2008, 07:30:34 PM »

Sounds like you guys are talkinga bout the "self policing" extremeskins, while I love the site it has two major downfalls.  1.) The rude member policing that takes place against newer members, and 2.) the low percentage of valuable posts, about 1 in every thousand members has something to actually discuss about the redskins.  While there are members such as old fan to name one, who put forth some of the most intriguiging redskins arguments, and have ability to actually sway fans opinions on a certain player/coach/strategy.

It wasn't ES Mahoney, I have to admit that the site that we were referring to has members with very good football knowledge and expresses their points well but you have to agree with the older members everytime and you have to talk crap about the Redskins every now and then to get along with everyone there and I was not going to do either of the two .

I made the comment that the Redskins defense was going to be alright last year before the season started and was going to be a top ten defense again and the guys there did not like it, because they hated the defense and especially Greg Williams. The whole board challenged me on that and the senoir members offered bets that the offense was going to be  higher ranked than the defense, of which I excepted (one was for bragging rights and the other was for a cheap bottle of liquor which I do not even drink: not the cheap kind anyway). Needless to say, the defense was looking like it was going to be good again and the offense was looking average and instead of owning up, the crew got even more hostile and I have to admit, I am not one to just back down so I became hostile also and that was the beginning of the end there.

I think that our final argument was when one of the owners of the site ( who had the biggest problem with me and I he), after the Green Bay game stated and I quote..."A good officiated game is one when the referees make bad calls both ways" and I was like "WTF!" and was outta there the next day. ..so goes the legend of "the nameless site vs. MB"

But it all had a happy ending, they have their site and I am a part of the best and fastest growing site on the net!










and I STILL did not get my cheap liquor!
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 07:37:50 PM »

Sounds like you guys are talkinga bout the "self policing" extremeskins, while I love the site it has two major downfalls.  1.) The rude member policing that takes place against newer members, and 2.) the low percentage of valuable posts, about 1 in every thousand members has something to actually discuss about the redskins.  While there are members such as old fan to name one, who put forth some of the most intriguiging redskins arguments, and have ability to actually sway fans opinions on a certain player/coach/strategy.

It wasn't ES Mahoney, I have to admit that the site that we were referring to has members with very good football knowledge and expresses their points well but you have to agree with the older members everytime and you have to talk crap about the Redskins every now and then to get along with everyone there and I was not going to do either of the two .

I made the comment that the Redskins defense was going to be alright last year before the season started and was going to be a top ten defense again and the guys there did not like it, because they hated the defense and especially Greg Williams. The whole board challenged me on that and the senoir members offered bets that the offense was going to be  higher ranked than the defense, of which I excepted (one was for bragging rights and the other was for a cheap bottle of liquor which I do not even drink: not the cheap kind anyway). Needless to say, the defense was looking like it was going to be good again and the offense was looking average and instead of owning up, the crew got even more hostile and I have to admit, I am not one to just back down so I became hostile also and that was the beginning of the end there.

I think that our final argument was when one of the owners of the site ( who had the biggest problem with me and I he), after the Green Bay game stated and I quote..."A good officiated game is one when the referees make bad calls both ways" and I was like "WTF!" and was outta there the next day. ..so goes the legend of "the nameless site vs. MB"

But it all had a happy ending, they have their site (which is a good one) and I am a part of the best and fastest growing site on the net!










and I STILL did not get my cheap liquor!
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 08:07:30 PM »

I agree with what he said and have posted it here before.

Our defense is constantly rated high and we can't score points.

At least we were strategic in a sense.
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2008, 09:59:10 PM »

Thanks MB, guess a lot of people didnt have an enjoyable experience there huh? I've been there for like 5 years, made some good friends, and like the name says Im Ez to get along with...no worries just B&G baby! I look forward to posting more here and getting some different perspectives also.

It's a nice site Ez but once you get on the wrong side of that clique, wooooweee! There is no turning back but there is a lot of knowledgable fans there and the site is set up really well. But as you stated it is all about the B&G! and Tandler spoke nothing but the truth in this blog *segwaying back to the topic*


It's pretty much that way anywhere, net or not.  It wasn't long ago I felt victimized myself here :p

I think once everything settles in though this is a great place and I don't go to ES much anymore, mostly here and Warpath. 

But all of that aside, it's "segueing" as SEGWAY is the trademarked name for that silly mobility device.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2008, 10:05:19 PM »


But all of that aside, it's "segueing" as SEGWAY is the trademarked name for that silly mobility device.

Thanks!
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